Those who have swords and know how to use them but keep them sheathed will inherit the world
-Jordan Peterson
Joe Rogan Experience #1070 - Jordan Peterson
- 1:44 This is why YouTube is going to kill TV
- 4:35 I can't imagine anything we could possibly strive for in our society that would make it into hell faster than equality of outcome. Historical evidence for the pathology of that root is so strong. You have to be historically ignorant beyond belief or malevolent or resentful beyond comprehension in order to think that that's a good idea
- 5:44 Hard work
- 5:14 If you have real true freedom, you'll never have an equality of outcome
- 5:07 Even if you don't know the history but have a complete understanding of human beings, you would say - well, equality of outcome does not make sense
- 7:06 Law of nature - Pareto distribution with stars and cities
- 12:24 Title IX
- 14:10 If you took a random woman out of the population and a random man and you had to bet on who was more temperamentally aggressive, if you bet on the man you'd be right 60 percent of the time
- 14:41 Let's pick the one in a hundred most aggressive person from the random population. Well, they are all men. And that's why all the people in prison are men
- 15:08 Differences at the extreme are where the differences really start to manifest themselves. So you can have a small difference at the level of the average but out at the extremes it starts to make massive difference
- 15:08 Differences in interest between men and women are big
- 15:34 Men are more interested in things generally speaking and women are more interested in people
- 15:56 Almost all the people hyper focused on things are almost all men and all the people who are hyper focused on people are almost all women
- 17:26 Relatively small differences in the average can produce walloping differences at the extremes
- 17:48 For people who talk about gender differences
- 17:48 Unfortunately many of the people who are talking about things like gender differences they have no idea what they are talking about. They don't know the literature. They don't know there is a literature. They don't understand biology
- 24:46 Experiment on child chimpanzees
- 36:13 Equality of outcome is a powerfully anti-capitalistic. It's powerfully anti-western. Why you would let that into your company? It's a big mistake
- 42:53 What the people who are agitating for equality of outcome don't understand is that you have to cede so much power to the authorities to the government in order to ensure equality of outcome that a tyranny is inevitable
- 44:05 "Nobody can have anything that everyone else doesn't have at the same time" - that's the ultimate outcome of equality of outcome
- 45:02 Necessity of the left wing
- 46:50 Age - one of the big drivers of inequality
- 50:52 The best game to play
- 52:52 There's an idea in Christianity that you should pick up your goddamn cross and walk up the hill. Dramatically that's correct. That's the right answer. It's like you've got a heavy load of suffering to bear and a fair bit of it's going to be unjust. So, what are you going to do about it? Accept it voluntarily and try to transform as a consequence. That's the right answer
- 56:07 Power of negotiation
- 56:23 A fair bit of your political preference is determined by your biological temperament. It's strongly influenced
- 56:30 If you are a creative type, who is kind of disorderly, then you are likely to be on the liberal left end of the distribution. And if you are a non-creative type and orderly, then you tend to be on the right wing end of things
- 56:54 Liberals and the conservatives need each other
- 58:06 We need each other / we need to talk to each other
- 1:00:32 Path to becoming an individual
- 1:02:59 There is a hole in our culture where there should be a discussion about maturity, truth and responsibility. No one is talking about that
- 1:04:59 Take care
- 1:03:12 What should you do with your life?
- 1:08:08 You should be a monster, an absolute monster and then you should learn how to control it
- 1:07:32 Those who have swords and know how to use them but keep them sheathed will inherit the world
- 1:07:50 You should be a monster!
- 1:08:12 It's better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war
- 1:09:52 One definition of a winner is someone who never let losing stop them
- 1:08:58 Benefits of martial arts
- 1:10:18 Life is not a game, it's a series of games. And the right ethic is to be the winner of the series of games. And part of that means that you have to learn how to be a good looser because you are not going to win every single game
- 1:10:31 Losing is important
- 1:12:07 To be a winner...
- 1:12:40 You want to have a life that's so engaging that you think despite the fact that I am limited and that we are mortal and that life is tragedy and there is evil in the world, despite all that this is worth doing
Joe Rogan Experience #1006 - Jordan Peterson & Bret Weinstein
- Post modernism
- There is something extraordinarily dangerous about having people revert to identification with their racial identity. It's really not a good thing
- Something can have evolved as a virtue in some circumstances and still be of the type that if magnified beyond its proper limits becomes pathological
- Your political belief is strongly determined by your temperament
- Orderliness is associated with sensitivity to disgust
- If you are a group of isolated humans and you meet another group of isolated humans and you trade pathogens there's a real possibility that you and everyone you know are going to be dead in no time flat
- Disgust sensitivity is associated with orderliness and you need order in a society in order to maintain it and the Germans are very orderly and that was actually a canonical part of their civilization and part of actually what makes them great and powerful
- Could you be a concentration camp guard?
- On average women are more agreeable than men
- Agreeable people don't make as much money and the reason for that is to make money you actually have to be disagreeable. Because you have to go to your boss and say - give me some bloody money or something you don't like will happen to you
- Agreeable people overall make less money in the same positions and it's because they don't negotiate on their own behalf very well
- Get your act together! Have a vision! Straighten our your life! Say what you think! Stay away from the ideological idiocies and simplicity and oversimplifications and try to put yourself together!
- Well-developed individual is the antidote to the tyranny of society and biology
- Many people don't want to bear the responsibility of developing themselves as individuals
- Move forward courageously!
- If you are going to be creative it's because you are tormented by a problem. If you are not in a position to be tormented by a problem, you are not going to put in time and effort to take the risk necessary to be creative
- Bible is the documentation of the emergence of the idea of the divine individual
- Get the hell out of where you are safe into what you don't know. You are going to find the catastrophes of life but if you keep yourself morally oriented and you make the right sacrifices then you can transcend the catastrophe of being and prevail
- "Let's just destroy the past" - No! That would be like saying well you don't need a body anymore, because your body is the collected wisdom of the evolutionary process across three and a half billion years
- Your moral duty is to realize the archetype in the confines of your own life
- It's extremely useful to represent the phenomenology of your experience as a domain of chaos and order. That works for every single environment for every person
- Your task between domain of order and domain of chaos
- The point of maximum proper being is right at the center of the border between chaos and order
- Truth and objective truth
- If you operate according to the wisdom principle
- The landscape of interpretation is almost infinite but the landscape of applicable functional interpretation is unbelievably constrained and I think that constraint system is what we regard as ethics
- People can't exist without a purpose
- Post modernism is a dead end from the perspective of applicable wisdom. It leaves you bereft and nihilistic. And that's not good because people can't exist without a purpose
- You can't be post modernist and Marxist at the same time
- The square root of the number of people under consideration have half of whatever it is that's under consideration
- Pareto distribution in production
- If you have ten thousand people, a hundred of them have half the money
- If you took a hundred classical composers ten of them produce half the music that's played. And then if you take the ten composers and you take a thousand of their songs, thirty of those songs which is the square root of a thousand roughly speaking are played fifty percent of the time
- To those who have everything more will be given and from those who have nothing everything will be taken
- When one good thing happens to you it makes you a little more powerful and attractive and so that fractionally increases the possibility that another good thing will happen to you
- If you put more effort and more time and focus into your work whatever it would be whether it's a podcast or your YouTube videos or whatever if people enjoy it they gravitate towards it and then over time it exponentially increases the amount of people that are exposed to it
- If you let a monetary system run, all the money ends up in the hands of a very small number of people
- Biggest predictors of success
- Smart people who work hard are disproportionately likely to succeed
- If you don't have any money, it's really hard to get some. Once you have some, it's not so hard to get some more
- Motivation driven by necessity
- In order for society to progress you have to allow the individual to compete in a relatively untrammeled space so that they can innovate
- Economic inequality drives crime
- Men who are men don't need money, they need function
- Human beings need to accept social and individual responsibility
- Not every job is for everyone
- The reason that some people have more than others
- University is actually not a business. It's like a church is not a business
- To direct the market means to impose the heavy hand of the state and it's potential pathologies on the market but to leave it alone completely means that it wanders randomly through an indeterminate landscape
- Difference between intelligence and conscientiousness
- If you have good measures of conscientiousness and IQ, you can predict someone's success in the competitive landscape with a correlation of about 0.6
- Twins IQ score in adopted out families
- A bunch of things that you can't say about Hitler
- White lies and black truths
- You can be anti radical left without falling all the way into the far right
Joe Rogan Experience #958 - Jordan Peterson
- If the protesters show up, that's good too
- pathological postmodern professors are not brave enough to debate me
- I received 35 letters from transgender people...
- I am not willing to cede the linguistic territory to postmodern radicals
- Only few transgender people want to use those words
- Post modernism is a complete assault on two things
- Why post modernists don't engage in dialogue?
- Idea represented neuron by neuron / Richard Dawkins idea of meme
- Medicine is an applied science
- Ideas are always at war
- Post-traumatic stress disorder
- Anything that is not part of your dominance hierarchy is a snake
- Anything that's outside of the hierarchy is a threat. Any stranger, any strange idea, any animal manifestation, any noise, any spirit,.. it's a threat to the integrity of the dominance hierarchy in many many ways
- correlation between prevalence of infectious disease and authoritarian attitudes
- Words are a virus
- domain of order / domain of chaos
- Black dot inside the white serpent in the yin-yang symbol
- In the face of a stressor you are better off psycho physiologically to act voluntarily
- Dominance hierarchy is older than trees
- Male dominance hierarchy
- Ideal person is the person who tells the truth
- When you start to realize how much of what you've constructed of yourself is based on deception and lies, that's a horrifying realization and it can easily be 95% of you. Things you say, things you act out ...
- The truth is something that burns. It burns off deadwood, and people don't like having their deadwood burnt off often because they're like 95% deadwood
- The unknown has two things
- The fundamental rule when operating in chaos is tell the truth
- The optimists that I hear say - well the pendulum swings and then it swings back - and I think yeah well, sometimes it takes a hundred years to swing back and it takes a hell of a lot of people out on the way and sometimes it never swings back at all. Sometimes people go out to fight a dragon and it just eats them or it burns them, and that's the end of that
- It's not a little thing!
- If you want to change the world you start from yourself and work outward because you build your competence that way. I don't know how you can go out and protest the structure of the entire economic system if you can't keep your room organized
- If you can't even clean up your own room who the hell are you to give advice to the world
- Don't be fixing up the economy eighteen-year-olds, you don't know anything about the economy. It's a massive complex machine beyond anyone's understanding and you mess with it at your peril
- How to change the world properly
- People can improve themselves I think to a degree that we don't understand. Because a human being for better or worse is something potential as well as something actual
- Morality comes when you are a monster and you can control it
- If you start to understand who you are, then you understand the Nazis. I can understand sex criminals. I can understand Nazis. And the reason for that is because I can see that as an aspect of myself, truly
- It's a horrible thing to realize that you are a human and what being human means. Christ to Satan, that's the human being
- I don't consider myself an intellectual precisely
- The highest ideal that a person holds consciously or unconsciously, that's their God
- People might say - "I don't believe in God"
- It's unfortunate about the new atheists
- Bible is actually a story. It's a whole bunch of different books written by a whole bunch of different people edited over thousands of years and then assembled by committee. It's a really strange book but it has a narrative structure and that sort of emerged as a collective decision across these thousands of years
- The rough story of the old testament / Order, corruption, chaos... Six times
- It's the truthful individual that's salvation / The new testament conceptualization
- About Carl Jung ideas
- You are not your own slave. You can't just tell yourself what to do. You have a nature
- 90% of my viewers on YouTube are men
- Your life is meaningless if you are doing nothing
- The proper goal of a Christian roughly speaking is to enact the meta pattern of Christ's life in their own to make it their own story
- Accept your mortality!
- you have to contend with yourself and the adversary that's inside you that seems to oppose your every movement
- Our true environment
- Just give birth!
- I would caution any young women not to be deluded into the idea that their career will be of such high quality that it self evidently trumps having a family. You have to have a hell of a career before that's the case
- Telling the truth is a good start because then you don't fool yourself about who you are
- Why not lie all the time? Well, there is a bunch of reasons but one of them is that you can't trust yourself if you lie and there's going to be times in your life where you have no one to turn to except you and so if you've stuffed yourself full of lies then you're going to be in a crisis one day and you're gonna have to make a decision and you're gonna decide wrong and you're going to be in real trouble because you won't have the clarity of mind necessary to make the proper judgement. Because you filled your imagination and your perception with rubbish
- What does it mean to have a meaningful life?
- Male hierarchy is a sexual selection device
- "I am so successful in a video game world and so unsuccessful in a real world"
- Lots of things are going sideways
- Artists have a hell of a time surviving
- Why lot's of people are not creative?
- Differences between Canada and the US
- Rational mind falls in love with its own productions or even more that it tries to elevate its productions to the status of God
- As you retreat from the chaos into your own little prison, you get weaker and weaker and the prison gets smaller and smaller and the chaos gets bigger and bigger. It's really an ugly pathway and you get more and more bitter and resentful and much more afraid of having your prison walls breached. It's a downward spiral
Joe Rogan Experience #877 - Jordan Peterson
- As a member of a culture, you are somehow responsible for the past sins of that culture
- If your group at some point in the past did something reprehensible then you were de facto responsible in the present for that
- It's not like any system is perfect, but there's a difference between imperfect and consciously murderous
- Old Soviet Union joke - "They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work"
- For everyone who thinks that equality of outcome is a good idea
- Reasons of being poor
- Reasons why women make less money on average than men
- Agreeableness is a maternal instinct trait
- Male human beings are very involved in the raising of their children which makes them quite different than many large animals
- If you are very maternal, you are very compassionate and protective of those that are within your kin boundary
- Differences between clinical personality psychology and social psychology
- Social psychology experiment
- Things get to terrible places one tiny step at a time
- People you can't talk to are enemies
- Don't forget it's wrong to eat your children!
- Simple explanation is a good explanation unless it's too simple but distinguishing between simple and too simple is no easy matter
- How clinical psychologist makes people less afraid
- You can educate yourself endlessly online
- Universities overcharges students
- compelled pronouns
- YouTube - social revolution
- Cut the funding to the universities / What the university should be!
- Listening vs reading / importance of listening to podcast
- If you want to change the world, you should change yourself
- It's more difficult to rule yourself than to rule a city
- Cortisol makes you old
- Write down uncertain things
- There is only one reason to remember the past - to be prepared for the future. What you are supposed to do it to take the past and extract wisdom from it
- You are reorganizing your brain when you write
- what scientific truth tells you is what things are, but genuine religious truth tells you how you should act
- How to reconcile science and religion?
- Here is how you should act
- Music is modeling the manner of being that's harmonious
- Meta hero - who sits at the bottom of the western civilization
- Eternal death and rebirth
- Dogma is necessary because it conserves the structure. Spiritual aspect is necessary because it updates the structure
- You have to believe things or you could not exist, you could not act. You have to hold on to the dogmatic structure of your belief. But you have to be open for it's update on a continual basis. That's basically what consciousness is for
- Your job between order and chaos
- There is nothing more important than the ability to pay attention
- Pay attention and speak the truth
- Truth is the antidote to suffering
- What caused the new Orleans flood?
- God - transcended reality
- There is nothing more complex in the cosmos than a human being
- Hell is real
- The apocalypse is always here
- There is never a situation that's so bad that there isn't something you can do to make it worse
- It's not an easy thing to live in a truthful manner but the alternative is hell
- It isn't an alternative political structure that's the countervailing force. It's spoken truth that's the countervailing force
- The ability to speak your truth is the bulwark against hell, and losing your job? That's nothing, compared to where things can go when they go badly
- The importance of spoken truth
- Intelligence and moral wisdom are not the same thing
- Story of the soul, not the intellect
- I am not saying those goddamn pronouns
- Try to say the truth, no matter what, because the alternative is worse. And it is worse!
- Sort yourself out, marshal your arguments and put yourself in order so that when someone pushes you a little further than you should go, you can say no!
Tragedy vs Evil
- Nature of human being is such that it consists of a confrontation with the bounded finite with the unbounded infinite
- Without limitation there is no being
- Without limitation there is no story
- The human self-consciousness is what separates us from animals
- Women reject most men for reproductive purposes
- Humans work, animals don't work
- The closest a human being could ever get to direct confrontation with the absolute unknown was to look up at the night sky. Because the night sky, especially when it's sprinkled with stars confronts you directly with the fact of the infinite
- If your sacrifices are not first-rate the nature of your relationship with the infinite is going to suffer dreadfully
- How powerful the human spirit can be if it's willing to take on the obligation of it's relationship with the devine. And also how terrible things can become if the responsibility of that burden is not shouldered
- You have to believe things because you just don't know everything
- If you don't stand up for your beliefs you leave yourself bereft. You are open to the depredations of the infinite
- every time you make a pathological moral decision, you move the world one step closer to complete annihilation
- Every time you make an appropriate moral decision, and you manifest moral courage in the face of your own vulnerability, then you move the world one step farther from the break
- Every single person is the center of the world
- Inside every human being there is a spark of divinity
What Matters
- I am not an atheist anymore ...
- God creates Adam and Eve explicitly in his own image
- The union of masculine and feminine produces a kind of perfect wholeness
- Whatever consciousness is, it comes in masculine and feminine embodiments. The masculine and feminine embodiment are equally representations of God
- Adam's fall - He blames her
- God's judgement is something like - Freedom is better than safety
- The injunction behind religious thought, fundamentally, is that you should live your life in such a way that the suffering it has to contain because you are confined and vulnerable, is justified
- You have to live well enough so that the suffering is worth it
- If you took advantage of every opportunity you have, if you crawl through every window that was open to you, if you lived as perfectly as you could, your life would be justifiable on its own terms, despite it's suffering. And despite the tragedy in the world
- People are redeemed one by one and not in groups. It's an individual project
- Human beings are built to take tragedy but they are not built to take evil
This Is Easily the Most Important Speech Jordan Peterson Has Ever Done
- Faith is the kind of courage that allows you to welcome the possibilities of the future with open arms
- The future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality
- An identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility
- How to teach a child micro routines?
- Taking responsibility for yourself and others
- There is no way you are going to be mentally healthy if your wife is measurable. First of all she wouldn't let you be
- Lost people with no meaning in their life
- The burden of responsibility is not a burden, it's the greatest opportunity you could possibly have
- There is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being measurable
- You want to be outside of yourself serving a higher purpose
- If we were wise and faithful and courageous and responsible ...
- If enough of us realized divine responsibility sufficiently, there is nothing we could not accomplish, there is no desert we could not make bloom, there is no reason for zero sum malthusian pessimism
- We could have what we wanted if we truly wanted it, if we truly sought for it, if we truly asked for it